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Villiain Regeneration
Topic Started: May 31 2011, 11:22 PM (3,212 Views)
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Ever since the Frezia, all the main villains have regeneration. After awhile it got really old, any villain past Buu you need a Spirit Bomb, or some other very powerful blast, to kill.

Vegeta's self-destruction against Buu and Goku's instant-transmission Kamehameha against Cell are times where I think that they should of just died. I mean, Cell got his regeneration abilities from Piccolo, right? But didn't Piccolo's regeneration only regenerate limbs? Like, remember when Goku killed Demon King Piccolo? And wasn't it stated that Cell's regeneration cells were in his head or something, but his entire upper body was destroyed?

This video is a perfect example of cheap regeneration

Super Dragon Fist vs. Omega Shenron

I mean, Goku went straight through his chest and then he EXPLODED. That should of been it, him regenerating was so cheap. Giving something like Omega regeneration abilities is just stupid.
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I agree whole heartedly. Villains after Cell, with regeneration abilities were cheap and boring. I mean Buu was just wack. You blast holes through him and he regens, blasts him to pieces and he regens, Gotenks reduced him to vapor and he regens. I mean the $hit was so hax because none of the heroes can regen like that and villains like Buu had power levels way higher than any of the heroes, unless they used SSJ3, fusion or had mystic.

Cell gets a pass because his regen isn't so over the top and you can trace his abilities. He has Piccolo's cells so he was able to regrow his arms, legs, tail, torso and head. With the head and torso thing though you have to consider Frieza and King Cold's cells. Frieza's race is virtually indesctructible, can survive nearly anything and can live anywhere. Frieza had been cut in half, lost an arm and had half his face and skull blown away by Goku but he was still able to survive that. Combine that with a regen factor and computer programming from Dr. Gero, Cell's regeneration makes sense. Cell also loses energy when he regens, unlike Buu and Omega Shenron.
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Well, nor Baby or Super 17 had regeneration abilities, and perhaps yes, battles are more fun against non regeneration enemies.

King Piccolo is a debatable topic, maybe because of being a Magic Namekian (not a Warrior Type like Piccolo Jr.) his cells werent developed to that regeneration or maybe he was lacking energy to regenerate, or just AT never thought of going by far in the story to make that plothole.
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I agree where you're coming from but you got to understand that it would have equally gotten boring with having a unbreakable villain up there.
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Jun 1 2011, 12:21 AM
Well, nor Baby or Super 17 had regeneration abilities, and perhaps yes, battles are more fun against non regeneration enemies.

King Piccolo is a debatable topic, maybe because of being a Magic Namekian (not a Warrior Type like Piccolo Jr.) his cells werent developed to that regeneration or maybe he was lacking energy to regenerate, or just AT never thought of going by far in the story to make that plothole.
baby regenerated from a small clump the first time he was "destroyed" that's why goku blasted him into the sun the second time, to make sure e died.
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Didn't they do it with movies as well? Meta-Cooler?
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lunar2
Jun 1 2011, 03:45 AM
NeoSSayajin
Jun 1 2011, 12:21 AM
Well, nor Baby or Super 17 had regeneration abilities, and perhaps yes, battles are more fun against non regeneration enemies.

King Piccolo is a debatable topic, maybe because of being a Magic Namekian (not a Warrior Type like Piccolo Jr.) his cells werent developed to that regeneration or maybe he was lacking energy to regenerate, or just AT never thought of going by far in the story to make that plothole.
baby regenerated from a small clump the first time he was "destroyed" that's why goku blasted him into the sun the second time, to make sure e died.
Correction, he only had regeneration when he wasnt inside any host.
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well, of course the host can't regenerate (unless they already could) i was simply pointing out that baby's own regeneration was on par with cell's.
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Not to mention he was made by a doctor that was similar to Cell's Dr Gero.
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I agree. Regeneration kind of gotten old after. Heck even though Super 17 didn't have it he had one thing. He could absorb ki. So he kind of made up with that.
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After Trunks breaks Piccolo when Piccolo is made out of stone after being attacked by Dabura, Piccolo states that as long as his head isn't damaged he can regenerate. I don't know if that's filler, but if it isn't then Cell's regeneration after Goku's kamehameha is flawed, although you could argue that he might have some other DNA that somehow allows him to regenerate like a Namek from any part of him.
I think that Buu's regeneration was ok, since it was like he was the last unbeatable enemy, although sometimes it was like yeh everything they just did was pointless it just postponed their own demise, but basically past Buu I don't think they could really have any more enemies as he was the strongest possible enemy pretty much. Basically GT shouldn't've existed probably.
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cell is also part frieza, who can survive with very little of his body intact, even when missing part of his head. i think that frieza's enhanced survivability is what allowed the namekian regeneration to work the way it did for cell.
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Yeah I think it was Frieza's cells that allowed Cell to survive those devastating attacks he suffered. With Vegeta's Final Flash losing half his torso and an arm, Goku's Warp Kamehameha with blew his upper body and head away, and Gohan's Kamehameha which took out both of Cell's legs, an arm, his wing and horns.
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Thats why Frieza is the best Villain to fight with. When goku hits Buu , its not special cuz you know buu doesnt feel pain. But if goku hits Frieza , Its way better how Frieza can feel pain and can be damaged.
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I did think that the regeneration got to be a bit too much, simply because it's what made Piccolo/Cell unique; and having Buu claim that as his own was just wrong.
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